l ([info]flexuous) wrote,



I am not in the least articulate this evening because I officially sat passively or not so passively for 7 hours and listened to political theory/social theory/election theory/Greens theory and a touch of gender and race in detective fiction. My mind is sore. But.


A few notes on the impending election:

-It is really quite patronising and fucking annoying when the Young Liberals on my campus come to see Bob Brown from the Greens speak, only to distribute Voting Green really means…brochures which describe how ‘radically left-wing’ and potentially dangerous the Greens are. They go on to completely misrepresent and summarise Green platforms such as the decriminalising of drugs as the legalisation and distribution of illegal drugs, etc. The brochures were even green. I gave it back to the fool.
-Young Liberals proceed to sit amongst the 400+ people who have come to see and support the Greens to shout Here Here whenever Brown mentioned the potentiality of the Coalition’s re-election.
-Our government still has children and babies behind wire because they tried to seek refuge in our country. What the fuck?
-Democrats are preferencing Family First. What the fuck?
-Latham announces the Forestry Policy for Tasmania which means old-growth forests are locked up at least for the next year while ecologists examine it. Pledges $800,000,000 to compensation costs, etc, for workers. John Howard, who was responsible for Industrial Relations laws which squash union power and invest all the power in employers, pledges not to protect Tasmania’s forests and to give $52,000,000. The Tasmanian Forestry Unions shake hands with John Howard and pledge their support for the Coalition. I see something devastating and utterly laughable in UNIONS shaking hands and applauding a leader who would happily see workers sacked if they went on strike.
-John Howard, over nine years, can strip public schools of funds and pronounce they 'do not have values' [because they are public] and give schools such as Geelong Grammer $8 million in funding. The school board of Grammer proceed to send out letters to parents reminding them just 'How good the Coalition has been' to them. But when Latham under Labor announces his schools policy of re-directing these massive funds to more needy public schools everyone screams class warfare.
-Family First volunteer, when asked by a Green candidate ‘Should lesbians burn in hell?” responds “Yes, lesbians should burn in hell.” Prime Minister John Howard tells the media Family First are “reasonable people” and he would much prefer to preference them over the Greens. Family First also label places of ‘Satan’ as bottle shops, gambling venues, brothels, and mosques.

I know that I want homophobic, Christian fundamentalist Islam-phobes holding the balance of power in the Senate. Along with the Liberals of course.






36 hours until polling starts. This feels like a referendum on the sanity of the Australian people.



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[info]akula

October 7 2004, 05:37:25 UTC 7 years ago

Struck in retaliation against a national partnership between the Greens and Labor, announced yesterday, the Democrats-Family First deal, which overlooks the parties' differences on policy, could have some unusual effects.

For example, gay Democrats senator Brian Greig could be re-elected on the support of a party that does not believe he should be able to marry his partner, Keith, or adopt children.

"Politics is full of ironies and that would just be one more," conceded Democrats leader Andrew Bartlett yesterday.

Senator Greig said that preference deals often made "strange bedfellows", but he was not troubled by the deal.


http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/09/18/1095394062567.html?from=storylhs&oneclick=true

their feelings seem to be a little stronger than "do not believe he should be able to marry his partner"

[info]flexuous

October 7 2004, 07:14:37 UTC 7 years ago

They are CRAZY.


That link doesn't work for me.


I can't sign into MSN. It won't work. I need some rest anyway.

xo

[info]akula

October 7 2004, 07:18:35 UTC 7 years ago

i have a phone ;)

[info]flexuous

October 7 2004, 07:15:05 UTC 7 years ago

ps. Andrew Bartlett is right-wing

[info]souvenant

October 7 2004, 08:10:43 UTC 7 years ago

[ god, i know what you mean. that was my reaction upon hearing who the democrats are directing preferences to, as well. i repeat your "what the fuck?" young libs were out in force here today, too. i wanted to smack each and every one of them in the face.

i have a suspicion that come sunday morning, our right-wing, bigot, homophobe, loser of a prime minister will still be just that. *shudder*. ]

xo.

[info]flexuous

October 7 2004, 19:54:37 UTC 7 years ago

Yes. He probably will be just that. And we will continue to protest, regardless.

xo

[info]_tomorrow

October 7 2004, 14:12:09 UTC 7 years ago

it makes me want to cry.

[info]flexuous

October 7 2004, 19:55:08 UTC 7 years ago

I will cry, I think. And I will be mad.

[info]kgbspy

October 7 2004, 16:18:12 UTC 7 years ago

The secretary of the CFMEU has actually referred to the Liberal party's forestry policy as a "joke" and a "con" - I think I saw it on the 7:30 report the other night. Here's hoping the rest of the forestry industry saw it too, and isn't brainwashed by the Libs' rhetoric...

Link: http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,11005361%255E30417,00.html

[info]flexuous

October 7 2004, 19:56:27 UTC 7 years ago

Yes, Bob Brown was discussing this at his speech. The whole thing is terribly misrepresented and Latham didn't do himself any favours by releasing it so late and then not appealing to the Union accordingly.

[info]stark

October 7 2004, 17:13:05 UTC 7 years ago

thankyou for writing this. i put a link to this entry in http://www.livejournal.com/community/australian_left/ I hope you don't mind, but I think a lot of people tehre would appreciate it.

[info]spherissa

October 7 2004, 18:04:19 UTC 7 years ago

thank you for linking it stark, it was worth the read

[info]flexuous

October 7 2004, 19:57:07 UTC 7 years ago

Heh, I wasn't even thinking, my mind was mush. But thank-you, and yes that is definately fine.

[info]spherissa

October 7 2004, 18:03:13 UTC 7 years ago

these are very very scary times we are living in

my sister isn't even going to vote, it makes me so mad a ther, i know we odn't necessarily have the best choices, but to not vote, and throw away the little voice we actually do have?

it's people like that that allow our country to have the leaders we have
*growls*

[info]flexuous

October 7 2004, 19:58:34 UTC 7 years ago

I knoe precisely what you mean. When I hear the "I don't really care..." or the "I'll just vote for Howard, I don't care.." I want to scream! You really need to discuss with those people why they think like that. It would be wonderful to ignore it, but it eventuates in a vote and that is consequential.

And Yes I am very scared!

[info]spherissa

October 8 2004, 01:09:26 UTC 7 years ago

it depresses me!

people take Australia for granted so much! but i'd rather they not vote at all than vote for Howard (though i guess if they really believe in what he stands for certianly they shoudl vote for him)

(please don't let there be a lot of them)

although i think we'll wake up to him returned

and Bush when his time comes

eep

[info]flexuous

October 8 2004, 01:24:51 UTC 7 years ago

I agree people take Australia for granted. And when they do feel scared, they blame anyone- single mothers, gay and lesbian people, refugees, Aboriginals- anyone but themselves.

And as much as I despise Family First, I am glad that despite their views, they can air them. I wish they didn't have them to begin with- but suppression and censorship merely creates extremism and resentment.

[info]spherissa

7 years ago

[info]john_zero

October 7 2004, 18:40:21 UTC 7 years ago

It is really quite patronising and fucking annoying when the Young Liberals on my campus come to see Bob Brown from the Greens speak, only to distribute Voting Green really means…brochures which describe how ‘radically left-wing’ and potentially dangerous the Greens are. They go on to completely misrepresent and summarise Green platforms such as the decriminalising of drugs as the legalisation and distribution of illegal drugs, etc. The brochures were even green. I gave it back to the fool.

- But it's okay for Greens to protest when John Howard speaks?

The left wing do not have a monopoly on non-violent protest.

[info]flexuous

October 7 2004, 20:08:44 UTC 7 years ago

No, no. I understand and agree that the Young Liberals, however obnoxious [and that is what they are- usually rich, smug and obnoxious] have a right to protest. But to go a theatre packed full of protesters, of people who have already decided that the current government is one they disagree with or despise? We already know what the Liberals do and what their policies are- we have a biased media for that. So why do we need to be continually bombarded with the people who already have the power? Why is it assumed that we need dousing down, some sort of reality check? They are obnoxious; their protest is merely an exercise in self-congratulattion.

The people who go to listen to John Howard are much more likely to never have been to exposed to leftist views. The people who go to see Bob Brown, on the other hand, are very likely to have been exposed, over a lifetime, to rightist views. We don't need rich Liberal boys handing out poorly put together brochures.

[info]msmolko

October 7 2004, 20:06:18 UTC 7 years ago

You were my absolute hero for handing back that brochure lol... more like throwing it! That rocked... and he was all... 'I'll just re-distribute these...'

Yes I agree with everything you mentioned... and a lot of it we discussed anyway. Hard to say I'm most mystified about anything... but at least the Coalition/Family First doesn't surprise me... I'm so disappointed with the Democrats!

What was Bob Brown like? I'm so disappointed I missed it... I mean I WOULD have stayed... bah... what time did he end up arriving? I've heard a few really positive accounts...

ps because it's too hard to post on all the other entries individually (and I'm lazy) I just thought i'd say I really like all your new photos... seriously! You can go on about how much it's just luck but I've been impressed too many times for it to be that for me :)

[info]flexuous

October 7 2004, 20:15:45 UTC 7 years ago

I was looking through photos from the peace march at the start of this year in Melbourne, and you can see the person who gave us the brochure. He is the one holding the "Iraq is free-Lets keep it that way" [hilarious]




Bob Brown was incredibly inspiring. I thought it was quite different to other lefties I have heard speak because rather than just criticising the right of this country he celebrated the optimism of the left. He didn't just disparage the right, he actually made you feel positive, and that is always a good thing.


And thank-you!

[info]msmolko

October 7 2004, 20:28:47 UTC 7 years ago

Hahah that's awesome! I can't believe you recognised him! He's kinda hard to make out if you aren't -really- looking... anyway what a dickhead. I can't believe he came to sabotage the Greens speech... like we were saying... often people perpetuate this myth that the Left are really violent and radical etc. and yet you get people like him running around destroying the Green campaign.

It's like what you said about Bob Brown - I love that he can celebrate the Left instead of criticising the Right (sure that's part of it... but you need to know WHY this alternative, not just acknowledge that we need one). My problem with people like Mr "Iraq is free-Lets keep it that way" is that they aren't even encouraging us to vote Liberal for any reason other than that if we vote Left we're all doomed. I guess it's like the stupid ads on T.V. 'vote for me because Mark Latham can't manage the budget' 'vote for me because Howard is dishonest' (yes I agree, but really)... why can't someone explain to me why they devoted their life to politics, to that party? What they envisage for the future? I guess that's what Bob Brown must've done?

It makes me more disappointed that I wasn't there actually haha. So many people have said that he is a fantastic speaker... I wonder if it's that he's really charismatic or he's just a really passionate person with a gift for expression... or both. Good on him either way, I feel good about voting Greens tomorrow, even though I know how little my vote counts.

[info]flexuous

October 7 2004, 20:44:32 UTC 7 years ago

I also recognised him because our stupid student magazine Farrago features him at the front of it, with other Young Liberals and co. because he is a student union office bearer while the union is in liquidation. He's a complete wank. But there are worse than him- that bleached blond boy in the photo wears t-shirts adorned with GIVE WAR A CHANCE and NO OIL FOR PEACENIKS. And he was the one in the crowd behind us. He also said during a Socialist Alternative vs Young Liberal debate last semester on 'Are women still oppressed' that although he doesn't think 'women ask to be raped, if they lead a gang-bang lifestyle...'. He digusts me. But they all do.

I agee with your second paragraph. Mark Latham has, I give him this, attempted to convince the country of his passion and of some kind of vision, as opposed to John Howard who is just an arrogant, self-serving little fuck-up. Latham does criticise Howard, but not as much as the reverse- and there are plenty of reasongs to criticise Howard, anyway. Latham hasn't had the opportunity to be the prime minister to make the kind of fuck-ups Howard has, yet Howard has the audacity to continually criticise him with unproved claims. And the whole 'Latham has no experience' bullshit. I would much prefer a leader with some sort of left ideals minus Prime Minsterial experience as opposed to a leader who has been in power for nine years who has overseen some of the most racist, bigoted, sexist attacks on this country. And not to forget how much the Liberals have forgotton what Medicare and public education is.

Don't worry- you will see Bob speak sometime soon again. He was just a very rational speaker, in my opinion- as well as passionate. And your vote does count, as much as it can in this type of democracy. And you are in a safe labor seat, so not all is lost!

[info]msmolko

October 7 2004, 21:58:19 UTC 7 years ago

I honestly can't believe people like that. I think that sometimes I must just get complacent... must just be a little naive... because it still shocks me when I realise we're a minority... not even that, that we're SUCH a minority. That people like my mother who, for the most part, is a 'good' person is still blind to all the prejudices she's been fed from parents/media etc. That I can walk down the street and have strangers genuinely treat me kindly, start conversations with me, and all I think to myself is 'I wonder, if they knew I was bi, would they treat me the same way?'. And I'm kinda used to strangers treating me weirdly anyhow.

Yeah... I do agree with you there about Latham trying to show his passion. I can't stand the way Howard presents himself... he is exactly that... arrogant, self-serving, no apologies because he's so righteous and narrow-minded. I don't know how he CAN'T piss off enough people to ensure the Liberals don't get re-elected? Like this morning I saw a poll for which (of Latham and Howard) had presented themselves most convincingly/impressively throughout the campaign and it was even and everyone was like 'wow, what an effort by Latham...' etc. but I don't even know WHAT Howard presented himself as during the campaign... as far as I'm concerned it's that whole nasty 'don't change what works' thing coming out... people vote for Howard in those polls because they like him/think he has done a good job not because they were genuinely impressed... after all he practically HAD no campaign (as far as I'm concerned).

Yes... but as much as I'd prefer a Labor government to Liberal, it doesn't make me happy knowing that the Greens or any other party for that matter won't be elected for a very long time (if ever) and that my vote won't REALLY go to the Greens because of it. Ah well... not ALL is lost, you're right.
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